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Replay - Overcoming Option Fog: The Key to Closing More Deals
Ever wondered how offering a variety of service options could transform your sales strategy? In this episode, we uncover the secrets to mastering sales in the electrical field by addressing the common challenge of "option fog." Learn from our real-world example of developing six diverse options for a living room ceiling fan installation and other electrical upgrades. We’re joined by Joseph, who shares his transformative mindset shift that emphasizes the importance of understanding the emotional concerns and happiness of homeowners. We dive into why thinking beyond just the technical aspects can overcome common limitations electricians face when presenting options.
Unlock the power of strategic options by discovering effective techniques for presenting multiple choices. We'll show you how to offer six well-structured options—two premium, two mid-range, and two economy—that enhance perceived value and boost sales. From simple fixes to comprehensive solutions, gain practical advice on creating a customer-focused approach that ensures better service and higher satisfaction. If you're looking to refine how you present options or make your customers happier, this episode is packed with valuable insights to elevate your electrical services game.
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We're here to help you master your sales, simplify pricing and deliver consistent, premium level service. And today we're talking about options how we get in the way of our own selves, really, when we're creating those options and just some frameworks to help you guys with that. As we just got off a Q&A RSS, as we call it round table support session with a couple of our clients where we were helping them from scratch develop six options for a living room ceiling fan and a couple of smokies I think were in there as well and we delivered this in about 35 40 minutes, flat from scratch, word document, everything laid out, and then on the side, I was even working on a templated one with some branding and just showing the possibilities for making that look great at the same time. That was a mouthful, joseph. How are you doing today?
Speaker 2:I am freaking pumped because I love options and I feel like electricians need to know a hell of a lot more about them than we do, so let's make today count. I'm so ready to make this happen.
Speaker 1:I want to frame this up and let you guys know if you haven't witnessed Joseph's innate ability to create options Really, let's go deeper and say his innate ability to be in the mindset of the very homeowners we're serving, that makes him uniquely equipped to handle this challenge. I just love your abilities in this area, man. I got to say that live right here on the podcast. So can I just ask quickly how did you have this mindset shift? How'd you get to this place of just being with the customers in their needs, desires and problems?
Speaker 2:Well, I mean not to get too dark with it, but realistically, I spent my entire life not being happy, right, and then I realized that my goal wasn't to solve people's electrical concerns. My goals were to help them be happy. So because I had been looking my whole life for ways for me to be happy, I was in that mindset to say, okay, you've asked for this. I was asking for things and wanting more. What's stopping them from asking for things and wanting more? The only difference is that they had no idea. They don't know what homeowner knows electrical systems and what options are available to them. So, technically, I was doing a disservice by not thinking of things for them and I wasn't okay with that.
Speaker 1:I love that, and this has to be a problem that I've encountered with more electricians than anything else, including myself. I get it. We get this brain block. It's just like the fog of options and that's why we called this actually option fog. We've created that term and we're going to stick to it because we just get in our own way. And something you said so important is we're focused on electron flow and the code. Right, they didn't give us a little book to follow. It's pretty large, for good reason, but then our entire training is all what we call convergent thinking. So it's all yes and no and does this apply? Does this rule apply? Does this rule apply? We spend so much time in that space we forget to just make a happy.
Speaker 2:That's why they want you there in the first place. They're not calling you to do things just because they're bored. You didn't show up door to door. They called you for a reason. The best thing to do is to figure out what emotional concern or pain motivated them to call, and then your sole responsibility is to say if that's your pain, I need to solve it. So that makes you, when you're focused and saying you know what this person's hurting and they don't realize it you're more motivated to find better solutions.
Speaker 1:I love that and one of the first things we were addressing it live in the group. Of course we're live every day in the group before these podcasts. If you're not part of the Electropreneurs Group, it's never too late. Join us at Electropreneurs Secrets on Facebook to get more active and engaged with us and live right here. We've got Harrison saying we've been doing good, better, best. Would love to know how to simply present the six options better, and some we were talking about already is three better, and some we were talking about already is three. And so it's not really a surprise that either. Electricians are making no options, option offers, three option offers, but it never seems to exceed that. Why is that?
Speaker 2:So the thing is is that we often become limited in two ways. We're either limited in our electrical knowledge, which for not all of us is the case, or we're limited in how we feel like these new options connect to what the customer really wants. So, like you know, you take a typical outlet for an example any trips. Well, logically, you're like, okay, well, my bottom option is just change the outlet. What more could the customer want? Two outlets, change all the outlets in the room, okay, and that's usually where it tops off. They're like that's all they called me for. I don't want to seem like a salesman, but realistically, there's so much more and you've heard me talk about this. When it comes to what do you do with the trip countertop, gfi, right, I feel like I don't have to beat that one down anymore, right?
Speaker 1:you could. You could if you let me. If you let me, I'll do it. You know what like just to expand on this, okay, so if that's the limitation, if the problem really is, hey, I can't think of anything else, and we've touched on. Well, we're trying to make your customers happy, which, by the way, segue works for staffing and retention too. People all are chasing happiness. If you didn't notice, I'm holding my hand like this, like it's one of these entrepreneur secrets that everyone's avoiding. It's right in front of us guys. Right, there's books, the happiness method. All everyone's chasing this thing, so let's give it to them. Exactly right, so you know what you could do. The trip GFCI you could also touch on. I mean, there was some really obvious hot tub solutions that a lot of people experienced. Roadblocks on brain blocks, fog of options on your choice. I'll leave it in your court.
Speaker 2:No worries. So the first thing that I want to do is I want to describe the dangers of good, better best. Then I'd be happy to take on anyone. In fact, harrison, if you're listening, I'll even let you be the one to suggest what options I'm going to design off the fly. Love that. But the dangers with good, better best is it's very rarely presented as best, better good. It's always presented as good, better best.
Speaker 2:You start with your lowest offer and then you move up from there. The problem is is what if they say no to your first offer, which is the lowest one? So you went in and you're saying, hey, I'm going to change the ceiling fan for you. Yeah, I know, you provided it. The bottom option is, hey, I'll just throw up what. You put up 300 bucks and they're like no, that's outrageous, I can't do it for $300. Well now what? You with $300. Well now what? You can't tell them about the one above it where you're going to put a better remote control in for 500, or the one where you're going to recess the wiring in the wall for 1,500. You just cut yourself off short. So, literally, if you want to do good, better best, all you have to do is flip it and say what I'm going to do is I'm going to give you the best first, then I'm going to give you the mid-range, then I'm going to give you the economy, because technically now each level is an opportunity to ask for the sale.
Speaker 2:So previously, with good, better, best, if I didn't get the bottom option sold, I was done, I was tapped out, I can't offer anything more. But in this method I can say well, this is the best possible way. What I'll do is I will recess all the wiring in the wall. It'll be hidden, we'll spackle, we'll paint it. Dual controls problem solved. No, I don't want that. It's too expensive, not a problem. Let's get rid of that choice. The middle one is, instead of having it fully recessed and us painting it, we recess it, you paint it. Still, get it done. Everything's perfect. No, I don't want that either. Okay, well, our bottom, bottom, bottom option is if you don't want it recessed and you don't want it painted, we could just put track molding on the wall. It's not the prettiest thing, but it'll do. How would you like to proceed? So, theoretically, you have three options now to ask for a sale. Doesn't that sound better?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, big time At the end of the day, working through this stuff like we did in our RSS, as long as we split. At least this is my interpretation. You correct me if I'm wrong. I love watching you work with this stuff, so long as we're able to remove the pricing at first and work through not the options as a exchange at this point, but a decided value piece, correct Decision of perceived value. Would we like that option or not? Okay, it sounds like you would. Okay, perfect, would we like to do this or have you guys do it, et cetera, et cetera, as you go down this list, and it seems very intuitive actually in this presentation. So price really is kind of the last thing to deal with. And I'm seeing Harrison saying here we start with the highest offer and remove extras going down and lead with financing.
Speaker 2:Okay, fair enough, that's a more effective model than just good, better, best basic, but there's even better ways in enhancing it from that. So, me personally, I always believed in offering five to six options because, realistically, you need to know that Okay. So, harrison, I'm speaking directly to you here, buddy, and I don't mean to badmouth you whatsoever. It's not my intention.
Speaker 1:No, he's already. He started off. Would love to know how to simply present six options better. Harrison's in a constructive mindset, he's open, he's ready to tackle this with us.
Speaker 2:So I love that. That's perfect. It's just when you're doing that particular format where you're just starting from the best. Then you do the mid-range and you do the economy, but you only have three choices. Are you really giving three choices? Because imagine I'm a premium buyer, right, and you only offer one premium choice. How many choices do I have? I don't have three. I have this, one or nothing. Same applies to a mid-range, same applies to economy. If I'm an economy buyer and there's just buy this or nothing, it's no different than just giving one choice. That's why it is so essential that when you design your choices, we have two premium, two mid-range and two economy. That way it becomes this premium or that premium, this mid-range, that mid-range, this economy, that economy. When people are presented with choices of this or that compared to this or nothing, they end up choosing something and that almost always ends up benefiting you and them. Make sense.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. I love that, and for anyone who's on the fence about options at all at this point just assuming there's a few of you out there let me just say, like one choice is no choice at all. So any situation with a few options or not that leaves them feeling like there's only one choice is a dangerous place. That becomes an ultimatum of whether or not they're going to work with you or someone else. And if, if you don't know the danger of ultimatums, look over at your partner and tell me how that worked out last time. I think we've all made that mistake once.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, every one of us have done those things before end up in the doghouse.
Speaker 1:Okay, so what's something actionable people can take um towards grading six options? How do we make this something that's achievable for a listener today?
Speaker 2:No problem. So when you come to building options, this thing that usually scares most electricians is they like to start at the top and they're like what's the best, what's the best, what's the best? And the problem with that is it often keeps you detached from what the customer really called you for in the first place. So for those who are newcomers to building options, this is my suggestion Start off at the bottom. I mean your bottom, I mean like your bottom bottom. Option six is what is the most basic possible way that I could solve what you're asking for, even if it's not a permanent solve, it's just a solve. So like as an example, let's say you have once again you can have your kitchen countertop. Gfi gets tripped right. What is the most basic thing you could possibly do? Well, I mean, you could say something like I'm just going to reset the GFI at my bottom and that's only going to be the cost of my trip charge, or it could be I'm going to change that GFI, but that would be pretty much considered the bottom bottom right. Yeah, be Well. I know if my bottom option was I'm just going to change the GFI or I'm just going to reset it. Now what I'm going to do is I'm going to take that GFI off the countertop and I'm going to make it the best installation I possibly can, which means I'm going to take that enclosure, tighten all the wiring behind it, make sure that I got my spacers around, because no tile guy's ever making it right. So make sure it's spaced all good, wrap it in your tape, put it in no locks if needed, and you could say this itself has a lifetime guarantee on it or this itself is a one-year guarantee. They don't like that.
Speaker 2:Okay, let's go up again. What is that GFI controlling? Is it controlling if it's in a kitchen? You'd probably know you have two GFI kitchen circuits, right? So is that? Well, you can either have the circuit being you know what, the one thing that this GFI was controlling. I'm now going to localize each one of those points. So, instead of when God knows whatever tripped it in the first place trips it. It's not taking out your toaster and your fridge and your coffee machine, it's all localized. So when one trips, all the others still function. That gives the customer a better level of peace of mind as well as less frustration of having to reset all their clocks right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So now you can go above that. What would be a better way? Every electrician that I've ever met can say the same thing in that have you ever gone into a home and found a surge strip sitting on the countertop, plugged into one outlet behind their refrigerator, because that's the only one they have? We know those exist right, but how many of us have ever done anything about it? Like, we know those exist right, but how many of us have ever done anything about it? Wouldn't it make more sense that your option above this is yeah, not only am I going to have all the ones localized, but I'm going to install either a two-gang box and have them installed, or even a three-gang box. Or, if you find out, there's all different phone chargers in place. Why not install USB charging points If you notice that they don't have under cabinet lighting and they want it? What's stopping you from installing backlit outlets? All these things are enhancements that would benefit the lives of your customers. Follow me so far.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:I mean, I could keep going if you're down.
Speaker 1:We're getting a little late in it, but let's give it a couple more minutes.
Speaker 2:Sure All right Word, all right. So as we continue on, you think to yourselves what else could be included? Well, we now offer our club memberships. You think to yourself well, if I'm going to install this and I see that this itself was installed not in the best possible way would it not benefit the customer for me to be able to say I'm going to go through the entire house and check every single individual point and I can give you a written report at the end of it? That way you can be in full control of your budget and your timeframe. Would it not be better if, for your fridge, I had an audible alarm GFI? So if the food ever went bad, you know that's going to ring you and you know about it. The sky's the limit on what you can do, and it's up to us to ensure that we're doing it the right way.
Speaker 1:So what would you classify out of those as the all-star action for today? I got the all. The first action is listen, we're going to start options at the bottom. Take that little tweak and maybe it's just coming up with six options. Maybe that's the commitment. That's all-star here today.
Speaker 2:I don't think we can. I think we can do better than that for the all-star action. All right, the all-star action. If you really want to do options the right way, it requires a very specific mind frame. You are not a salesperson, you are not an electrician. You are a conduit to which people can get their needs met. That is all you are.
Speaker 2:When a customer calls you for something, your responsibility isn't just to say I'm here to fix this one point. Your responsibility is to learn what is motivating this customer to want this in the first place. And once I understand that motivation, I now have the ability to solve their problems in a way that will make them happier. Our goal is to make them safe, but they have to be happy, because people don't like to spend. People don't like to buy things right. They don't know how to stretch it. People don't like to sell. People don't like to buy things right. They don't know how to stretch it. People don't like to sell. They don't like to be sold on anything. No one wants to be sold, but everyone wants to buy when it's in their best interest. So the all-star action is line up your ways to say am I making the customer safer and happier by me being here, and if you are, you're very likely moving towards a successful presentation.
Speaker 1:I love that. I love that. I'm just going to throw one more little tidbit and maybe it's a whole other podcast, but there was a misspoke that for a second. There's definitely a connection, a chemical connection, for many people when they purchase a dopamine release, that actually causes happiness. That is very real. So we have to definitely embrace that. People do like to spend. They don't like seeing that money leave their account. Exchange has to be ripe and worth it for them 100% 100%.
Speaker 2:None of us want to be people. Being a salesman is such a dirty word. People just don't like it. But we need to be able to communicate value to our clients. Otherwise we're all sitting on our asses at home. So the thing is is that if you're going to sell, why not do it in a way with integrity and honesty, but why not also do it in a way that makes them happier and your business profitable? Is that really an unfair exchange? I will trade you your happiness for me being able to continue to provide you and others in our community happiness.
Speaker 1:Absolutely Abundant exchange man. It's the best way to go. We are premium service providers trying to help you master your sales, simplify your pricing and really perfect your premium level service. So I'm Clay Neumeier. This is Joseph Lucani. Thank you, guys again. If you're watching the replay on Facebook, feel free to please continue commenting. Let us know what your thoughts were and if someone you know needed to hear this, do share it with them. Bring them to the Electropreneurs Group. Can't wait to see you guys again tomorrow. Take care. Cheers to your success. Bye for now.
